Ta peter

yep and then they open their doors on you to get the kids in and out and you end up with dings in your car ......great

Shopping centres have a duty of care to provide safe amenities for customers This is not happening It's about yr for a test car before the courts

Bad parking.

I am with you Peter, I have a Subaru Outback, and it's a lot lower than these cars, and I always have trouble reversing if one parks along side of me, especially when I'm parked on a two way street, and cars coming at me from both sides

The main issue is when trying to back out they almost completely block your view. Unfortunately many people buy these vehicles yet they waste more fuel

I feel like it could pull forward

Make parking spaces for them.

I don’t drive so can’t comment

I'm glad I do not have a four wheel drive especially when it comes to parking. Sometimes when I am at a supermarket park I check that I am with9n my zoned space. I have a sedan. A larger vehicle pulls up and then I become sort of jammed to put my groceries in the car and then get in myself. I will never go 4wd size vehicle because of this problem.

That's right cause there shouldn't be.

Would be a great idea, those larger cars dont fit in current spaces.

Definitely needed with a capital D

This is big so special parking have

There should be special parking areas for 4 wheel drive & similar size vehicles

Why do people buy super expensive sports cars, it's for the colour or the brand name. Same for 4 wheeled drives. So to avoid parking near them catch the train more often, or the owners of these bigger vehicles should be on the trains or buses.

We have an SUV which is higher than my coupe and perhaps a little wider but otherwise in length it's about the same.

They should have designated parking but at the end/back of lots.

Ban them and tax them they are a menace

Why not roads for suvs

should pay more like charge for 2

They are registered road vehicles. Councils or government have to allocate parking provisions for them ,just like they would cars,motorbikes,disabled parking. The stupid thing is if larger spaces were available people with cars,bikes would still park in them. When it comes to parking it's the quick and the dead. What's convieniant always comes first.

True! 4WDs are meant to go to high country, snow, streams, and jungles, (I mean difficult-to-reach areas by a normal vehicle). Today, most vehicle owners use 4WDs in normal traffic because there are no traffic/vehicle restrictions for them. As a result, parking is getting congested and blocked too.

They also weigh nearly as much as a Tank so the very structure of Car Parks needs to be changed or better still prevent 4 Wheel Drives from using them.

Maybe it's time to remember that country people need bigger vehicles to successfully run their farms, be they meat, fruit, vegetable or other. Without our rural industries the NZ economy would be in a total mess. And of course you are right, big vehicles don't fit in little car-parks and rural people do not go out of their way to annoy town-people so let's just be a little more tolerant please

These vehicles make my blood boil, or rather the drivers of them. They are too big for our narrow windy roads in New Zealand. Our car parks aren't big enough for them, they follow you too closely, you can't see past them, they are gas guzzlers and generally unnecessary in most contexts.

Half of the car parks are too small for small cars! And I don't care for car drivers who stop past a parking space and expect me not to drive into it while they put on their reverse stuff! I can reverse out of a park to leave.

If the cars don't fit in a car spot don't park their or park in large vehicles spot. I live in the country and even we don't need a 4x4 why do city people do I find it strange as the 4x4 are to be used as off road with scratches and dinges to show a good time out in the bush

Car parks are getting smaller while cars are getting bigger. Blame the developers. Where I live everyone drives 4wds, yet developers are trying to fit as many parking spaces as possible into carparks.

i agree with the above comments but the parking would be solved if the 4WDS were aIlowed to park in areas set out in blocks in parking areas made for them as long as it was clearly marked no cars allowed

Bloody hazards. Selfish inconsiderate people driving them in the city.

Yes 4 wd vehicles are ridicilous in suburban streets > Michael

yes allocated spots so that smaller vehicles can see to get out

They are dame well never wide enough

Never had the desire to climb into a big car. We did have a Toyota land cruiser when we lived in the country but get real - there wasn't enough parking room in our original garage. Is that why everyone now has to have a big house so they can park their BIG car? I hope this trend fades soon.

Most of the ones I see parking at supermarkets can not even drive them properly, they can't judge the width but they think that they look good, most of the utes are not even any good for tradies as the decks don't hold much.

I hate these huge trucks, in a small cr you can't see around them. But very handy if your ex is stalking you and you park in between these behemoths! He can't see me!

Bad parking

no problem. I have a small car. . .it fits!

I don't see many where I'm from

Yes. Care is needed when you see these big vehicles in the shop hi rise carparks because of their size

Yes they need larger spaces, they just cant fit in the smaller ones

yes you have to be careful when parking in a car park as no space on either side

FWDs are designed for off road driving, not for being used at the local shops. Cars cannot see passed them properly which makes accidents far more likely.

4WD are a menace on suburban roads

I love my local car park which has provision for small cars only. Just what I need.

Sounds like a good idea.

I drive a small sedan, so it's impossible to see when reversing out a car park next to a 4x4, maybe they should have special areas for smaller cars to park, so it's safer for us all. I don't need or want a big 4x4, I don't go off roading, at my age especially, all I need is my little shopping basket car, which is economical and cheaper to own and drive.

I think car parks need to have a section for bigger cars ,4WDs. I'm always getting caught between them and it is hard to see when trying to get out. I notice there are a lot of dual cab utes now, maybe these are popular because the other cars don't have very big boots- which is silly considering the size of the SUV/4WDs

I think they are making the car spots smaller

REALLY, where do you live and what 4WD, we don't have a problem parking in our area of Victoria. So where did you get this photo? It looks like the photo you posted is fake, the proportions are correct for a normal car - Maybe the car was reversing?

You all need some cheese to go with all this whine!

It will forever be a mystery to me why SUVs (Stupid Useless Vehicles) are so popular. They apparently account for over half of all new vehicle registrations which seems ridiculous. To my mind SUVs suggest that their owners know very little about cars nor are they interested in them. We call them 4WDs but the reality is that something like 60% of them are 2 wheel drives only - usually driven by the front wheels. Most people who purchase them do so in the mistaken belief that they are safer in an accident which in itself says something about the owner - I'm okay, sad about you! It has recently been reported that governments are looking at the situation and questioning whether or not they should be taxed sufficiently to compensate for the increased wear on the roads, increased pollution and the like.

They need to make the parking bays way bigger for the larger cars. We own a larger car because we towed a caravan around Australia and no we aren't now but there is no way we can afford a new car now. We always park well away and we walk only because we don't fit into a standard car park and that is just the way it is until we get a new car. I also don't feel safe in the smaller cars because our roads are so bad. We keep calling the New England Highway the national goat track. Besides who know what we would be driving now back then and we won't be driving soon as we will soon have autonomous cars. It's coming.

bring back horses and carts i say

Double or even triple all the Registrations, Fees etc. for all of these monster vehicles. Vehicles originally design for Off-Road work on Farms. They were never intended to be used for simply taking the kids to school or doing the shopping. They guzzle fuel like no others, their tyres cost a small fortune, the drivers seem to think they are the only people on the roads and that anyone with the temerity to get in their way should move aside. We all know those White or Yellow lines painted on the roads, freeways etc. don't we? Drivers in Australia are supposed to keep to the left of them, when they turnninto another street they are still supposed to keep to the left of the line in the middle of the road they are turning into. With the exception of those Monster Truck-like vehicles most drivers do, if only because they can actually see those lines. Most of the drivers of Monster-Truck-like tanks such as Ram, Land Cruiser either simply do not care that they are cutting off someone else or they can't see those lines.

Yes, without a doubt. They should have to pay double for parking because they take up two spaces. If you can afford those monsters you can afford to pay for them.

Yes I agree, they need their own carpark. I have been hemmed in between two HUGE 4 wheel drives where it is basically impossible to be able to reverse out because you can't see anything

Even disability parks do not provide enough space for getting out either side of the vehicle.

i THINK THE 4WD'S SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN CAR PARKS ALL TOGETHER AT THE SHOPPING CENTRES. THEY ARE TO BIG WHEN A NORMAL CAR IS TRYING TO GET OUT AND YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING.

Everyone should ride an electric bike and save the planet

They are designed for Mini's and are shrinking rapidly. People just have to be more careful as all have a right to park!

Introduce driving days based on car types.

Totally agree, car parks aren't suitable for 4WD but so many of them park there because there is no where else. The amount of them around is absolutely crazy and they are a hazard to other vehicles that can't see pass them. I have issues with them at my local supermarket as alot of these 4WD race through the car parking area at speed, some one will get killed one day

Even if you give them their own spaces, they will still use the regular ones, once their spaces are all full. You can't win.

It would be a good idea for the car parks to accommodate larger vehicles as well. Especially in the sky scraping car parks.

Think back to the 40’s & 50’s , back to the time of the big “Yank Tanks” , carpark sizes adapted to the extra length, then adapted again to the “ compact Japanese cars of the 80’s and 90’s. It’s called evolution of infrustructure…

hi ty again Zebra...

On top of all this the current sky scraping carparks are not strong enough to hold these heavy vehicles and some have even collapsed.

ty Zebra...!!!

What can I say> You didn't ask anything. I know they are bigger, but we can't ban them, can we? I'm just jealous that I can't afford one, and I would take it everywhere because I can't afford two vehicles, and I'm alone with all the bills. I can't even afford one of those teenie senior cracker boxes that are going to get you killed in an accident! Some cars are like driving shoe boxes!

Ban them from suburbia, they belong in the bush. Not only are they awkward to park, they block your view and are driven by people who cannot handle them. Good for pulling a caravan!!!!

The big cars are not designed for school pickup and going to the supermarket and hairdresser. The amount of these monstrosities on our roads is crazy. Council carparks need to repaint the carparks to make wider spaces and restrict them parking to the rows further away from the shop. They are very dangerous when you want to turn left and they pull up next to you to turn right and there is no way to see past them. God help you if you are in an accident in your sedan against one of these monsters

The big 4WDs, SUVs, etc. shouldn't even be allowed on the roads. It's a ridiculous fad that needs to go.

GOVERNMENT/COUNCIL HAS TO START WORKING ON THIS

Bigger parking spots should be an option.

It is becoming a major issue in the city and suburbs as the shopping centres car parks aren't made for the large 4WDs. By the time they are in their parking spot they are either just in or on the line and when they open their door hit the car next to them. My car and many of my friend have had this happen and if you don't see it happen bad luck.

I agree.

I drive a 2002 Mazda 323 and on most occasions I'm privileged to get a disabled parking space, which I am entitled to, but when I can't I have to try and find an "end" spot which will leave me enough room to open my car door and get out without me scratching their car or me scratching theirs. But I am literally the meat in the sandwich if 2 4WD's Park on either side of me and it becomes impossible to reverse and exit safely. I have to search for a kind hearted person who will stand behind my vehicle so that approaching traffic can be alerted, as they cannot see me, that I'm trying to leave! It's frustrating, my car often gets scratches from these interactions from the 4WD's as their doors are much larger and heavier than my little car! At least in country towns, like Mudgee on Friday, there is plenty of street parking but you must park rear to kerb. With all the 4WD's there that day I thought I must have come across a large car club, but it was just near the end of the school holidays. However, for the very first time ever, I was unable to part near the supermarket, and the 2 disabled spots as well as everything else, was taken. I had to park across a wide country road and I got the only disabled spot available but dragging my full trolley all that way back was hard. I DO think that there SHOULD be a separate 4WD space within a suburban shopping centre or else enlarge the spaces available. You'll lose a few places but at least I'll be able to see how to reverse safely! Thanks for reading.

4WDs are meant for the country not big towns or cities. Car parks in the cities are designed for small cars.

I live in a small country town and the street parking is fine for 4wds and I have never had any problems when parking at a bigger shopping centre thats what most people drive where I live because its in the country and they need these to get around there farms

Some park spaces are so small that even normal sized cars are problematic to park. Ever since the 1980's, spaces have been becoming smaller while cars have been getting bigger as shopping centres have had the brilliant idea of making spaces smaller and narrower to "fit" more cars in by having small spots.

I live on an island. We had an RV Park, but the city eliminated it to put in a so called Water Park, but it never materialized like the poster board showed. What a waste of time, and money! Many people lived in the RV Park, and had no where to go. Started parking on our side streets! ;-(

ban 4wd's from the cities

Absolutely!! I have a little Mazda 2 and have so many narrow escapes because I cannot see to back out of car parks when next to one of these monsters in a shopping centre car park.

Stockland at East Maitland designed the new car park for 4WD's, as that is what most people in the area drove.

I've never heard of a car park

We live in a rural province and least 60% of the vehicles in our nearest town are 4WD's and I bet they aren't all farmers (they're too clean, the 4WD's not the farmers lol). Just bought for ego and not utility purposes.

They need to install bigger parks in the middle of nowhere. Half of them, well three quarters can't even handle the bigness. Ridiculous. Just had an incident last week with a man taking 2 1/2 parks for his big a discovery. FIND A PARK NOT IN TOWN WITH SMALL PARKS. Irks me. Supermarket carparks depict this picture well. They cannot even fit into parks, they are wider and way longer, therefore spilling over into the next park. one because they too big, 2, because they have little D syndrome, and 3, just clearly cannot handle the size.....size only matters in certain situs....FYI. I got a $65 ticket because I was "out of my parking lane", because big numb nuts was encroaching into mine..How is that fair?Edited 28-Apr-24 06:44am

Vehicle size is very diverse here in Auckland, mainly due to be surrounded by water, a lot of folk have a boat, or are self employed so require a larger vehicle! Yes there big, guess we’ve just got use to them…

There is no need for them in the city is ridiculous I was brought up in the country

Sometimes i see them stock out but most of the time they fit or just hang out a little in my areas

oh boy need to ask son and brother regarding their ram's on parking, i so far haven't paid attention on parking spaces where I go,oh my!!!!

There should be separate parking areas for them. Most of them are never used for the purpose they were built for. Most have never been out of the city. Just a status symbol. Edited 28-Apr-24 03:37am

The parking spaces are just shrinking

Large SUVs and large Utes/Trucks should use bigger parking bays as they block oncoming vehicles and cause obstruction for pedestrians.

I think they need parking just for them have you tried backing out and can’t see past them. Scary

I'M not concerned because I ride a scooter and I can fit anywhere lol 😆

Time to put a BIG tax on these gas guzzling climate change evil vehicles

No not necessarily